Choosing a Fall Marathon

I want to run another marathon. 

Am I obsessed with the distance and only want to race marathons again?

No, not really.  I like all types of races but I do want to race another marathon.  After my first and only marathon, I needed a lot of time to recovery.  While running the NJ full marathon (April 27th) crossed my mind, I knew I was not ready to run another marathon by late April.  Right now I’m not a runner that is physically ready to run more than one marathon per year.  Both mentally and physically I am not ready to commit to that.

I haven’t directly said “In the fall of 2014, I plan to run another fall full marathon”.

So now I will.  In October, I plan to run the Wineglass full marathon.  Instead of being a big, crowded, hilly race I opted for a smaller flat and fast race.  As I’ve mentioned a few times, I have social anxiety.  Why I chose to do the biggest marathon in the biggest city is beyond me.  Don’t get me wrong, it was a lot of fun but I’m ready for a smaller marathon.

PRing in the marathon will be my primary goal for Fall of 2014.  

I find I’ll have a higher chance to do this going from NYCM to Wineglass because I’ll know what to expect of how a marathon in general feels.  I’ll know that marathons are hard, I’ll probably die around mile 20 and that I should eat more gels.  I’ll know what it feels like 2 and a half hours into a hard race.  I’ll know more about training.

Logistics wise, I won’t have to wake up 6-7 hours before the race.  I won’t have to walk to a subway, ride a train, take a ferry and then bus and finally sitting for 2 hours before a race.  It will be glorious to only be up a couple of hours before a race.

I’ll be honest that a 3:17 marathon was not exactly what I wanted last fall.  I made a lofty goal of 3:10 (and after my half marathon times in the Spring that should have been reasonable) however I didn’t reach my goal.  I’m not blaming multiple moves or the fact that I didn’t realize how hilly or hard (logistics wise) the race was.  I’m not blaming anything.  I enjoyed my first marathon and I could not be more proud to finish in 3:17.  Fitness wise, I know I was in a faster place.  I am proud of my marathon and marathon time.  I also cannot wait to drop my time further.

I don’t know my goal yet for Wineglass.  After running a couple of 1:25 half marathons and then PRing, I would like to HOPE I am capable of running under 3:05 or even 3 hours but the marathon is a different race.  It’s not two half marathons.  I won’t make a goal until I am much closer and shift focus to marathon training.  (Sometime in later June).  Plugging my recent half marathon into the McMillan calculator with proper training, it says 2:55.  Right now I personally think that is a little bold and unrealistic but that’s my opinion.  Going from a 3:17 to a 2:55 would be quite the drop.

I don’t really have a plan until then.  I know I want to run a few more half marathons in the Spring.  I want to stay injury free.  (Who doesn’t?)

Then in the summer I’ll go into some higher mileage training and also do more 5ks for workouts.

I would like to get back to my 18:35 5k I did last year.  (Am I needy or what, marathon PRs, getting back to my 5k time…I just need everything).

Then do a couple of fall tune up half marathons in the later summer/early fall and run at the Wineglass full.

Something along those lines anyways.  I’m still in the very early stages of decided what I want to do with my training.  I know it will keep on line with my normal running training. I won’t stress about it, I’ll probably race a fair amount (5ks please) and just continue to run higher mileage.  I would love to be able to find a coach to help me but that is a post for itself.

As the race comes closer I’ll make a more concrete goal and plan but admitting is the first step right?  Well here you go…Wineglass 2014 here I come.  


44 thoughts on “Choosing a Fall Marathon”

  1. Wineglass!! It’s going to be epic! Your goal is a perfect one, and somewhere in your future is a sub-3:00 marathon. Just wait for me at the finish so I can high five you. 🙂

  2. I got really excited for just reading this! I know it feels good to make a plan and get to work. Wineglass is officially on my running bucket list (probably the half though)…look forward to following yourt training 🙂

    1. The Wineglass half is on my running bucket list as well! Love the area, hopefully we both get there someday soon!

  3. I think this is a perfect choice for you and I KNOW you can break 3 hours on a better course and with less chaos to up the nerves. I think our Fall marathons will be around the same time so I hope we can race/train together once or twice this summer when I’m up north or vice versa.

    1. That would be fabulous. I think the RnR Philadelphia half would be a great tune up for a fall October marathon. (my humble opinion LOL). We really need too!

      I know I’ll be coming back to VA a few times in the near future. Well in June, so we should meet up then!

  4. I’ve heard nothing but good things about that race. One day, maybe next year, it will be on my plan. I am running Utah Valley Marathon in September, and hopefully Chicago in October.

  5. You will love Wineglass. Slightly downhill as really flat. Biggest drawback is lack of crowd support on course.

  6. Congrats ummm I think Hollie haha! Wineglass from what I’ve heard is one awesome 26.2 annnnd the word on the street is that it’s crazy fast too! No matter what goal you set for your marathon time going forward I know you’ll crush your current marathon PR! This a huge learning curve bewteen your first and second marathon or so I’ve heard. I plan to run another 26.2 someday myself though probably not until 2015. So for now I’ll live my 26.2 daydreams through you haha! Can’t wait to follow your journey as you embark on this new adventure! 🙂

  7. That is so cool Hollie! I am actually using this as my second choice if I do not race Chicago! I have heard many great things about it, and I am sure it will be a PR course for you! So exciting!

  8. My friend does this marathon almost every year because her family lives there. She really likes it and has said nothing but great things about it. I’m sure since it your second marathon and you know what it feels like it will go better than NYC… being flat helps too ;).

  9. I’ve heard really good things about Wineglass – I’m really excited to see how you train (and follow along)! I will admit that I love the marathon distance – maybe I am obsessed!

  10. Sounds like a great plan! I love that you respect the marathon distance so much…it frustrates me a bit when I see people running them without really training hard. I actually just picked my fall marathon last night and I’ll be running Richmond. I’ve run 2 previously and my current PR is 4:31. After a 1:51 half at Shamrock, I’m hoping to be under 4:10 and ideally, around 4:00. Time to get to work! 🙂

  11. YAY! I think you definitely are capable of a 3:05, and that sub 3 would be outstanding. Your approach to training and racing is awesome. So—pressure-less. Carefree. And you enjoy the run which is something a lot of people let get out of their hands when they become so goal driven. Can’t wait to see what Winelgass has in store for you =)

  12. So exciting!! It is such fun to put a race on the calendar and have it as a goal.

    After Boston (no real time goal. I ran 3:24 last year which far exceeded my expectations!), I would love to break 1:30 in a half (PR is 1:33:24) and break 20 minutes in a 5K (haven’t done that for 3 years).

    Thanks for sharing your goals, Hollie! Can’t wait to continue following.

  13. I did the Wineglass Half last year and loved it. They have great swag and I found everyone to be really friendly and excited for you. Yes, there’s a slight overall decline from start to finish, but when you’re running it, it doesn’t necessarily always fell that way. There are some tiny (I do mean tiny) rolling hills, so at the moment you’re running up a hill, the course doesn’t feel so flat to you.

    Book your hotel room early. Everything in the surrounding area books up fast except for the expensive rooms. Because it’s point to point, you need to decide whether to stay near the finish or near the start. Both have their pluses and minuses, but I feel that staying near the finish line in Corning is better. All the activities are there. Taking the free bus to the start line is fast and easy.

  14. Yay! I’ve heard great things about Wineglass, so I know you will love and and that you will get your PR! You are such a strong runner, both mentally and physically, so I have no doubts about that!

  15. Some friends of mine ran this race two years ago and they liked it. They have a cool “medal” also. I may run this marathon for my New York marathon as getting into the NYC marathon seems like a hassle.

  16. Awesome – you’ll knock it out of the park there!! And it’s on my birthday!! It’s such a great race, you’ll love it!

  17. It sounds like a great marathon to run! I’ve tried a few pace calculators and they never work all that well for me. I think it’s because I’m a better endurance runner than a short distance runner. They actually tend to overestimate my half marathon times.

  18. No more choosing a race just for the shirt? 😉 I don’t think I’ll ever forget your reason for signing up for your first race — it seriously pops into my head every time I start looking at my first 5k to sign up for. Looking forward to seeing you kick some more butt in the fall 😀

  19. I’m so happy that we got to *accidentally* chat about this the other day on the Twitter. It really got me thinking about smaller races, and thus I began my search for a full in November or December. I did enter the lotto for Chicago, so we’ll see what happens on Monday. Otherwise, I’m going small or going home!

  20. Choosing a new race (especially a marathon) is one of the neatest feelings in the world. You’re excited yet nervous all at the same time. A 2:55 marathon would be amazing, but in my opinion your 3:17 was amazing too. You are smart about your training and I know that you’ll set your race goal appropriately. The best thing about running and racing is that you have a lot more years left to continue to PR. I’m definitely interested to see how your training goes leading up to this! 🙂

  21. Well this just makes me really happy! I LOVE small marathons, having thousands of ppl on the sidelines, screaming as I run passed gives me so much anxiety, I think that’s why I didn’t love Boston.
    I’m so excited that you’re going to be running WG too!
    You should try to incorporate some salt tabs into your long runs during training to see if they help you, as much as they help me. It’s amazing the difference I feel in my legs, about 5 minutes after taking one. I take them every 50 minutes when racing, and it’s made a world of difference.

  22. Exciting stuff! I’ve heard great things about Wineglass–both in terms of the course/terrain and the experience itself. Can’t wait to follow along!

  23. I am going to have to be bold and say that the McMillan calculator is full of shit 😛 It has me running a 3:05-8 marathon, and short of getting a new set of legs, that will never happen. I actually don’t know of a single runner (outside of elites) who has a marathon time that equates to their half time – almost everyone loses much more time in the second half of their marathon than the calculator allows for.

    As your half time drops even further, I’m sure you will get a 2:55, but don’t let the calculator dictate your time goals completely. I think a 3-3:05 sounds like a great goal, and anything under that is just a bonus. I’m so excited for you and eager to hear about your Wineglass training 🙂


  24. I too was considering the wineglass marathon…. I haven’t run one since 2008 and it was just all bad!!!!!! I need a flat fun one to get me kick started and I have bee. Eyeing it bc it’s relatively close to me…. How fun would it be if we got to meet up…. I def cannot run your pace but maybe a before and after selfie:)

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